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Consequences of summer 2018.

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Re: Consequences of summer 2018.

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Well, welcome to global warming. If you want to do something about it, please vote for politicians who do not deny basic science and general scientific consensus about it (especially our US friends)
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ceero wrote:Well, welcome to global warming. If you want to do something about it, please vote for politicians who do not deny basic science and general scientific consensus about it (especially our US friends)
Sorry.. i had to do this.. :+
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ceero wrote:Well, welcome to global warming. If you want to do something about it, please vote for politicians who do not deny basic science and general scientific consensus about it (especially our US friends)
Hopefully it's an awakening call for all the tards out there who doesn't believe in science when this year is done, even though it's 20 years to late. If the winter is somewhat like the last years, we will hit an all time high (modern time) global average temperature for sure. But hey, better late than never.

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meanwhile our summers in Australia have 7-10 days in a row over 40 degrees sometimes ;)
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It's really interesting reading all of these comments because it seems to be quite different in America.
This year so far is actually not nearly as bad as the last two years. Last year especially we were over 100F (~38C) for almost 2 weeks straight, and multiple other times. I'm not sure about farmlands as in New Jersey, we don't have many. But I know it was still tough for farmers, although with processed foods, farmers have it tough every year here.

So far this year, it's only been around 90F (32C) which is better than the past couple of years. However, August is usually the rougher month here. Nothing really special yet.

Also, I'm not sure how it is in the rest of the world, but the thing that I think hurts us more here than the heat and dry summers are the tornadoes. Whenever I hear about something devastating and making living harder, it's almost always tornadoes. I rarely hear about droughts that actually start to really affect us like people have mentioned earlier.

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humidex value of 47 Celsius in southern ontario was a first since records began (i guess 100-150 years ago).
its hovered between 40-45 Celsius (humidex value) for about a month for most of the day with only one significant rainfall - i guess drought conditions.

I am skeptical about the whole climate change debate but its been an unusual year for sure. It has been difficult to sleep and around 70 old people died in Montreal with temps of around 40 on the humidex.
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ceero wrote:Well, welcome to global warming. If you want to do something about it, please vote for politicians who do not deny basic science and general scientific consensus about it (especially our US friends)
Global warming has always existed. It's just that we accelerate things exponantially, so that flora and fauna can't adjust itself to these rising temperatures.
I don't know if you've ever been to Asia, but imho there lies the real problem. Getting a plastic bag for basically everything (small or big) you buy, taking the motorbike for every little errand and old, polluting cars.
And, of course, the big global warming denying idiot Trump.
I just feel like we can't do much about it here in Europe while there are extremely polluting countries like the ones in Asia (and probably also Africa), on which you can't really blame them, since they are generally poorer than us to do something about it.

Honestly I'm loving this kind of weather. Give me 30 degrees over any cold or rainy day, but I do understand the consequences this has for the environment, the farmers and water supplies. The grass here looks like I'm driving around in Spain or something. :fist:
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The Blaster wrote:humidex value of 47 Celsius in southern ontario was a first since records began (i guess 100-150 years ago).
its hovered between 40-45 Celsius (humidex value) for about a month for most of the day with only one significant rainfall - i guess drought conditions.

I am skeptical about the whole climate change debate but its been an unusual year for sure. It has been difficult to sleep and around 70 old people died in Montreal with temps of around 40 on the humidex.
As I have the exact opposite opinion to you about the climate change debate, I want to encourage you to browse through this site https://climate.nasa.gov/. Generally speaking, studies made by private actors leads to equal results. There is a correlation between carbon dioxide (which is an amazing heat conserver due to its molecular structure) and the planet's temperature. This conclusion is drawn by current measurements, combined with historical CO2 levels which can be measured with the help of geology. It's really worth some browsing imo! :)

On topic, two planes from Italy arrived today to help with the forest fires. Apparently it's not enough (no shit :D) and the government has requested more help from EU.

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DjVero wrote:
ceero wrote:Well, welcome to global warming. If you want to do something about it, please vote for politicians who do not deny basic science and general scientific consensus about it (especially our US friends)
Global warming has always existed. It's just that we accelerate things exponantially, so that flora and fauna can't adjust itself to these rising temperatures.
I don't know if you've ever been to Asia, but imho there lies the real problem. Getting a plastic bag for basically everything (small or big) you buy, taking the motorbike for every little errand and old, polluting cars.
And, of course, the big global warming denying idiot Trump.
I just feel like we can't do much about it here in Europe while there are extremely polluting countries like the ones in Asia (and probably also Africa), on which you can't really blame them, since they are generally poorer than us to do something about it.

Honestly I'm loving this kind of weather. Give me 30 degrees over any cold or rainy day, but I do understand the consequences this has for the environment, the farmers and water supplies. The grass here looks like I'm driving around in Spain or something. :fist:
i have, i lived in Sri Lanka for a few months in 2014. The way how they treat environment is terrible indeed, i have never seen such a polluted sea in my life, they live from tourism, yet its kinda difficult to find a beach where you dont keep bumping into plastic bags while swimming. They really dont seem to be bothered by it, you go and get some usual food from the street, they just dump it into a plastic bag . want a sauce for your Kottu? They dump the sauce into another plastic bag and tie it. And put it together with the food in the first plastic bag into a new, bigger plastic bag. And than toss it somewhere on the sidewalk once finished eating.

When it comes to the plastics consumption, by far the worst thing i have ever seen was in the US though. In europe, i go to a grocery store, i have to pay for a bag, usualy a paper one, but most of people are used to carry reusable textile bags. In the states, you go to Wallmart, you shop for 10 items, they are going to put them into 5-6 separate plastic bags, while you could easily fit them in one. They dont even ask, they just put it right there, charge nothing for the bags and god forbid you are buying something heavier than 0.5kg, they are going to put it in a separate bag and double it, because using one bag for the single item is probably too eco friendly. I couldnt believe my eyes at first, really. Dont get me wrong, i love that country, but they really have a lot to learn from europe in this sense.

would lie if i said im not enjoying this summer, if it was up to me, there would be 35 degrees 365 days a year, seriously :+ but i understand the bigger frame here
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Here in north-western Italy, since now, I did not suffer that heat we use to had during the past two years, maybe it is only an impression. But the bizarre thing imo is that sort of monsonic climate we are experimenting. This spring rained almost daily, and this summer we had a lot of days in wich suddenly starts to rain heavilly for something like 1 or 2 hours
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